Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe "Charis" kicked me in the balls. Or maybe it was Steve Girsky AND Charis Johnson who kicked me in the balls. I'm not sure yet because my balls still hurt and I can't think straight. Oh, and how lucky am I? I got SIXTY times the ball kicking because I paid $6,000 to get my balls kicked. So I got 60 times the ball-kicking and suppose I should be happy. After all, it was 60 times more than what this guy was asking for.
In fact, being a good samaritan, I will email this guy a link to some autosurfs, sign him up, and then he can get his balls kicked for whatever price he wants all day long.
Hey, I feel better already. I can help people now! Don't tell me that the man who took out that ad and I are the only one's who pay large sums of money to get our balls kicked.
In fact, if any of you reading this would like to start your own autosurf and start your very own ball kicking operation, here's a primer for you...
Ignore the name they used for the author, it's a pseudonym, a pen name. It was really written by:
Hey, don't judge us folks who pay large sums of money to have our balls kicked. It wasn't like we originally intended for it to happen. It just did. And strangely enough, we started to like it.In fact, here's where I'm trying to get my balls kicked now:
Don't be shy. C'mon. Join me.
It only hurts the first time.
It only hurts the first time.
Many happy kicks,
Sam Freedom
PS. Cmon, it's free to watch!
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and the home page of The Coolest Guy on the Planet!
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8 comments:
Seems like some folks just don't get it. Stormpay was doing what they were asked by the tnvestigators of the government. Read the TOS, and stop crying. You knew it was a risky business...Didn't you?
Jim
http://cash4receipts.us
No Worries here.
Look,
It may have been risky business I must agree but isn't it for virtually any business or opportunity these days.
I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong or not but as I understand things is there was "NO SUCH INVESTIGATION by GOVERNMENT" or any other such as FBI other than their own personal judgement.
At one moment Stormpay stated they had Dollar for Dollar for what is owed to all Stormpay Members.
Another time they stated they were doing accounting to find the funds to pay Charis Johnson.
If they had the funds then paying Charis should not have been a problem.
In my opinion they took funds from hundred's perhaps thousand's of peoples accounts with UNLAWFULL ChargeBack Tactic to cover their tracks and sent these funds to Accounts that NO LONGER exist.
They didn't get much from me personally but the money they took from my account was ChargedBack to Accounts that were closed.
Maybe Charis is a Crook or maybe it's just people imagination running wild just trying to put the blame on someone like Charis simply because they do not understand how these Online Processors work.
I've read many stories but I continue to have an OPEN MIND to this mess.
As I said, perhaps "Charis is a Crook" but one thing is for sure that until now she has done NOTHING WRONG by Members and has always PAID Members on time or early. Anytime she may have been late it has usually been due to unforeseen circumstances beyond her control.
So far, in my personal opinion it is Stormpay who has proven to be shady.
I'm not in the business of judging people for what they did in the past however it should of course always be considered when it comes to final judgement.
12DailyPro has not shown any signs of being illegal or doing any shady practices.
Stormpay however, they setup NETIBA as a means of making more money for themselves. They always referred to NETIBA as a Third Party and as an Independent Watchdog to their Members.
What they DID NOT disclose to everyone in the beginning was that they also owned NETIBA.
Which simply means in itself since Stormpay was also NetIBA Certified Member anyone complaining about Stormpay to NETIBA in anyway would go unheard.
NETIBA was a SCAM which FRAUDULENTLY took Money from thousand's of people and is still taking $$$$ from unsuspecting victims.
I also understand they made absolutely NO EFFORT in confirming identities of those who register with NetIBA - Everyone was CONFIRMED by PHONE yet NO ONE got a Phone Call.
The only effort was in sending a Verification Code via snail mail - which in itself proves nothing.
NetIBA Code of Ethics
NetIBA validated accounts agree to maintain the highest standards of professionalism, ethics, and integrity in their business.
NetIBA validated accounts shall make accurate claims to their customers.
NetIBA validated accounts will strive to be open about all aspects of the products or services they offer.
NetIBA validated accounts commit to offering the highest quality products and services.
NetIBA validated accounts agree to uphold the principle of fair play.
NetIBA validated accounts strive to maintain high customer satisfaction for all customers with legitimate business concerns.
NetIBA validated accounts agree to promote information privacy.
NetIBA validated accounts will not misuse data. Personal information obtained for one purpose will not be used for another purpose without consent.
NetIBA validated accounts are to treat customer information as confidential and will not take personal advantage of privileged information or enable others to do so.
NetIBA validated accounts will refrain from setting or giving customers unrealistic expectations.
NetIBA validated accounts are to be vigilant against actions that have the intent, capability, or effect of being dishonest towards our customers.
(This on it's own is a JOKE..!)
NetIBA validated accounts will not only abide by the law, but will strive to serve their customers with honest values and ethics.
NetIBA validated accounts will honor commitments regarding guarantees they offer.
NetIBA validated accounts ensure that the normal use of their mechandise or services will not be hazardous to public health or safety.
NetIBA validated accounts ensure that the normal use of their merchandise or services will not be hazardous to the environment.
NetIBA validated accounts agree be co-operative with the authorities in the case of legal disputes.
The way I see it...
Stormpay as the Owner of NetIBA has clearly broken most of their own Code of Ethics.
Bottom line here is...
If people are crying over the issues with Stormpay then chances are they have got good reason to do so.
As for the TOS with 12DailyPro...
While Charis can legally just keep the Money without Paying a Dime her intent for now is to get the Money from Stormpay first then pay it out to Members.
I have many $$$ tide up in 12DailyPro but I know they don't have it, it is Stormpay who has got it and refuses to pay up.
When or if Stormpay does pay her I would not blame her at all if she then calls it quits and just keeps the money anyway, but I really do not think she would do this especially when there is an even bigger Opportunity here now for her when (or if) this happens.
I for one would gladly join her next opportunity even if she keeps my money from this one. There are thousand's like me who also feel the same.
Stormpay has my Money...!
NOT 12DailyPro...!
Stormpay UNLAWFULLY took funds from my Stormpay Account without notifiying of any ChargeBack Request and deposited it into CLOSED Accounts.
YES, it's true they do have Dollar for Dollar for whats in my Account...?
My Account now reads $0.00...!
The same as thousand's of others.!
Just one last point....
Stormpay has openly alledged that 12DailyPro's Stormpay Account has NOT got enough Money to pay all Members what is owed to them.
Let me make this clear....!
FACT...
Stormpay has absolutely no idea how much 12DailyPro requires in order to pay all Members..!
FACT...
If Stormpay had Dollar for Dollar then they should have been able to pay 12DailyPro in the first place..!
FACT...
They are merely an Online Processor and have NO RIGHT to take the LAW into their own hands and or take or ChargeBack ANY Money without consent..!
What Stormpay should have done if they truly believed 12DailyPro to be Illegal...
1. Carry on with business as usual and pay Charis.
2. Report the matter to Authorities such as FBI.
3. Then and ONLY then if Authorities felt it necessary, FREEZE 12DailyPro's Account.
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Now if you think I'm crying then your probably right....
If you think I'm upset, then your probably also right....
You Stormpay LOVER'S need to take a step back then step into the shoes of someone who has been truly affected by all this before you may even begin to understand what has happened.
Take a look from the other side of the fence...!
Do you REALLY think Stormpay is NOT at fault here...?
This on it's own makes me both laugh and cry at the sametime.
Time will tell......
From now on however, I will NEVER trust anyone who goes behind my back to take my Money without consent or anyones money for that matter.
By the way...
Can someone tell me if it's true that Stormpay has filed for BankRuptcy....?
Just something I heard...
OK .. ENOUGH !!
Look ... just start a Class Action Lawsuit. I'll be happy to drive over to their office and let them know it's coming.
I was LUCKY. They wouldn't let me open an account because I live in Tennessee. Told me they would not open accounts for anyone in same State they were located.
RED FLAG !!!
Hope you all get your money when the dust settles.
Sam .. ever hear of a program from years ago called "Dare To Be Great" ??
Have a great day y'all ....
Stormpay is still continuing to ChargeBack Accounts.
They have already put mine in the RED for more than $50 with several small ChargeBacks.
Eventually the day may come when Stormpay will attempt to Charge our Credit Cards to collect this money from us.
When or IF this happens I think everyone will then request reversal of those Charges via their Banks.
Believe it or NOT, most Banks are able to successfully recover those funds for their customers. Many do this FREE of charge for customer and a few may require a fee.
Should this then happen and StormPay wish to contest those reversals of their original Charge then I believe it costs them about $50 to do so. Not sure about this but I do think there is a fee they will need to pay.
By the way, while we may never know for sure how many people have had ChargeBacks and are in the RED there is bound to be many, MANY of them.
So if everyone who maybe or WILL be in this situation were to request reversals Stormpay will find themselves taking many, MANY Banks on to REVERSE those REVERSALS back in their favor.
This in itself IF IT HAPPENS may mark the final END of Stormpay - World Wide from using Banking Services.
But if we know Stormpay....
They'll simply change their NAMES, establish themselves in a different State, come up with a new SCAM (sorry, I meant - Business) and simply start up again using the money they made RIPPING OFF (again sorry, I meant - EARNED) from us SUCKERS who used them in TRUST to look after our Money.
I think I got that last part right..?
They want to look after our money for us, I guess they think we are just going to blow it all on SCAMS.
Either that or if they are truly smart, they will retire at the North Pole where they can put their BALLS on ICE after getting them KICKED by thousands of people should we ever get lucky to personally catch up with them.
Stormpay is still continuing to ChargeBack Accounts.
They have already put mine in the RED for more than $50 with several small ChargeBacks.
Eventually the day may come when Stormpay will attempt to Charge our Credit Cards to collect this money from us.
When or IF this happens I think everyone will then request reversal of those Charges via their Banks.
Then believe it or NOT, most Banks are able to successfully recover those funds for their customers. Many do this FREE of charge for customer and a few may require a fee.
Should this then happen and StormPay wish to contest those reversals of their original Charge then I believe it costs them about $50 to do so. Not sure about this but I do think there is a fee they will need to pay.
By the way, while we may never know for sure how many people have had ChargeBacks and are in the RED there is bound to be many, MANY of them.
So if everyone who maybe or WILL be in this situation were to request reversals Stormpay will find themselves taking many, MANY Banks on to REVERSE those REVERSALS back in their favor.
This in itself IF IT HAPPENS may mark the final END of Stormpay - World Wide from using Banking Services.
But if we know Stormpay....
They'll simply change their NAMES, establish themselves in a different State, come up with a new SCAM (sorry, I meant - Business) and simply start up again using the money they made RIPPING OFF (again sorry, I meant - EARNED)
Either that or if they are truly smart, they will retire at the North Pole where they can put their BALLS after getting them KICKED by thousands of people should we ever get lucky to personally catch up with them.
Just checked my account again and it's now SUSPENDED so I can NOT get in to know what's going on.
They have probably done this so they can now use my account to reverse payments from others who I have previosly paid in order to put my account at $0.00 (last time I checked it was -$58 in the RED)
This is only a guess...
After all, nobody really knows what is going on concerning this matter.
I far as I am concerned there was absolutely NO REASON for then to SUSPEND my account.
What they should have done first before taking this action was to at least send me an email asking me to PAY the $58 in the RED.
Of course, because of their methods and current business practices I probably would have refused but they could have asked anyhow because who knows maybe a would have paid.
Now how ever, should I find ANY Transactions on my Credit Card statements paying Stormpay I'll simply have them reversed by my Bank (cost me nothing to do this).
I'm also now considering going through my Statements and having all Payments made to Stormpay Reversed.
Since they feel that they can take such action of making ChargeBacks from my account without my approval then I should have the right to do the same.
Hey, I'm in Australia, so for them to get any money back out of me will be more difficult for them.
At least I believe it would be.
Anyhow, I watch this page so I look forward to see what others my say.
See Ya, Down Under...:-)
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